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Dear All
I feel as if I need a new set of batteries. I have been on Humira for 12 weeks now and I can feel myself gradually declining. I previously failed on Enbrel. I have my three month review next Tuesday with my Rheumagologist and I am not sure what the next step will be. I am desperately trying to keep going in my full time job but I am finding it harder each day. I feel as if I am having the life slowly drained out of me. I am disappointed that I have now failed on the 2nd Anti-TNF as I was so hopeful in the beginning. I know there are other options that I can now try but sometimes I do get impatient waiting for an improved quality of life.
Jackie xx
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Dear Jackie. So sorry to hear that life is not so good for you right now. It seems that humira may not be doing the job it is supposed to. I have not been on this drug so not sure how long it is supposed to take to 'kick in'. You have just posted so I am sure someone will be able to tell you how long. However a week to go till you see the specialist again and hopefully they will put your mind at rest. Take care. Rose
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hi Jackie,
so sorry to hear how you are feeling ... i posted i'd lost my Va Va Voom so can sympathise,
i'm 4 months diagnosed and not under control yet, Methotrexate has just been upped so hoping it will do it's job soon.
i hope you get some help at your next appointment, i have no experience of other drugs at the moment ... please let us know what the Consultant says.
feel for you Jackie this is definately not an easy journey is it.
Suzanne x
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Oh Jackie, I can hear your sadness in this post. One of the many things about RA is that everything takes so long and in the meantime it's our lives which are passing us by. Can you take some sick leave from work? YES I'VE CHANGED, PAIN DOES THAT TO PEOPLE.
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Poor love!
It must be so frustrating to agree to try these meds and then see them dwindle.
I am so sorry.
Perhaps make an appointment with your rheumy soon to discuss.
God Bless,
Amanda
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hope you feel good soon, i am just starting with introducing yet another,sulphasalasine didnt agree with me i was in a mess within 2 days so now its hydroxycloroquine,as well as my mtx,doc said give it 3-4 months(who is this guy!!!) and have been knocked for 6,only been 3 days so far been in bed most of them, i never thought it could take so much , just one little pill and im flat on my back but ill give it the week,thinking of you dorothy xxx
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Hi Jackie, I can really relate to how you are feeling as I too failed on both Humira and Enbrel and I was so hopeful that they would be the answer. Also as you say its such a long wait each time to see if its worked and although you know yourself, by how you are feeling, its awful to have it confirmed at an appointment. But please keep hoping, there are other options out there, I moved on to Rituximab and the first round of that wasn't very sucessful and I've just had a second round as apparently research has shown that it can work the second time, so I still have my fingers crossed. I know steroids arn't the answer and have their own problems, but at very low patches I've had the dosage upped and it has helped to get me through the depths of despair when I wondered if anything would ever work and my spirits have been raised by having a few good weeks. I'm not in quite the same position as I'm at college part time rather than working full time, is there anyway you could have some sick leave to do a bit of recharging those batteries? I know at my worst I just couldn't have done a full time job. Please don't give up hope there will, I am sure, be something out there that can help, and if you find it before I do please let me know. With love and best wishes that your rheumy team can help . Sheila
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Hi Jackie
I am so sorry to hear you are having such a difficult time at the moment, it must be so very hard to hold down a full time job at the present time. Fatigue is truly terrible, unless you have RA no one would really have any idea just how depressing and debilitating it makes life. I have had RA since May 09, it took many months to get correctly diagnosed and to date still have not got the inflammation down and being topped up with steroids to keep going. Like so many it is a long battle but you have to keep positive and will get there in the end. I hope you can have a good chat with your theumy next week, thinking of you.
Julia x
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Hi Jackie Sorry to hear that the Humira appears to not be working. It's very frustrating having reached the anti-tnf stage as you start to feel there isn't a lot left out there to try. At least on the Dmards there's plenty to choose from and the knowledge that Biologics are there if all else fails. I failed on Infliximab but Enbrel has worked well for me fortunately, although every now and then I think it's giving up on me and start to panic a little! I don't know what your drug history has been but have you been offered or tried methotrexate with the biologic? The two in combination can work well for some people. Rituximab is sometimes offered when two anti-tnfs have failed so perhaps there are options available for you. Finding suitable treatments always seems so difficult. It certainly sounds as though you could do to have a spell off work. Perhaps the fatigue is stopping the Humira from doing it's job properly? Bit like taking pain killers for a headache then banging your head against a brick wall  Maybe well earned much needed rest is required! Hope you get on well at your appointment. Do let us know how you are doing Lyn x
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Hi Jackie, I`m so sorry things are so tough for you at present. It is horrible to pin your hopes on these drugs, only to find they are not working for you. As others have said, it`s always such a long process too. I hope your rheumy will have another option for you when you are next seen, and that things improve for you soon. Take care, Kathleen x
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Dear All
Thanks for all your kind replies. Yesterday was a very low day but feeling slightly better today even though had a very bad nights sleep.
I have been taking Methotrexate since I was diagnosed. I am on 17.5 mgs - cannot seem to push up to 20mgs as it makes me feel really sick and even more tired.
As for time off work. Sometimes I am my worst enemy. My company have been very kind to me and let me work from home two days a week and I do work the whole eight hours I should do when at home. I love my job and don't really want to go off sick if I can help it. As explained previously I am the only wage earner in our house as my Husband had to medically retire from work four years ago and is not well enough to work. I think what is worrying me at the back of my mind more than anything is what if I have to give up work one day if my health deteriorates even more? It sounds as if the chances of getting onto benefits is getting slimmer by the day and then we would have no income except a small pension. My Daughter is 14 and wants to be go to university so that she can be a teacher. If I am not working how are we going to pay for that? Needless to say it is just never ending questions about health and money. I am 47 so there is a long time to go before I can collect my pension.
Hopefully next Tuesday I will get some answers from my Consultant about where I can go from here. I am not a worrier by nature but sometimes I can have a blip.
Jackie xx
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Of course you're entitled to a blip. Has your husband applied for DLA at all? YES I'VE CHANGED, PAIN DOES THAT TO PEOPLE.
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Afternoon Jackie,
I understand how you feel as I am in similar positiion. The more we worry they more it agrevates the RA. I am a worrier by nature and I find it very difficult not to.
Rich has placed an interesting reply under Work post . Worth having a look.
Keep posting
Rose x
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Julie - No he is not claiming any benefits. I will look into DLA - it is not something we have thought about - thanks.
Jackie xx
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Dear Jackie,
So sorry to hear you are struggling at the moment. There is nothing more frustrating, when you are going from one drug to another and nothing is helping.
I have been very poorly since May. Thought I might just have a short flare, that could be fixed with a depo. Had one, which helped a bit, then another in august, which made no difference. (Very high CRP and ESR, both over 100). I was then put forward for Humira by one consultant, who said, she would fast track me and I would be on it very soon.
Last week back in hospital with worse bloodtests. A new consultant has taken over. She told me, I am not ill enough for Humira, she is stopping my hydr... and putting me on sulphasalazine, which can take up to 3 months to have an effect.
Like you, Jackie, I feel very low,the tiredness and constant pain are making me very depressed. Every little job is an effort. I do try to pace myself. As I take my predniselone at night, I feel better in the morning and try and get some work done first thing. Comes the evening I am absolutely rubbish and I am ready for bed by 9 o`clock.
I do hope, you will soon feel better.
Merete
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Hi Merete Good to hear from you but sorry you have been so poorly. This continual waiting game for the right meds and then the time it takes for them to work is ridiculous and in the meantime we have to suffer the pain, fatigue and depression. Hope you get some respite very soon. Lyn x
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Hi Merete
Really sorry that you are having such a rough spell at the moment, it really is difficult to comprehend that your first consultant was fast tracking you for Humira then following even worse results another said you were not ill enough. The way your case is being handled doesn t seem acceptable at all to me, perhaps calling the helpline in the first instance for their advice might be worth pursuing.
Thinking of you Julia x
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Hi Merete, I`m so sorry you have had your hopes dashed with regard to humira. It seems unbelievable that one consultant is prepared to fast-track you onto humira, while another one decides you are not ill enough! It beggars belief. Is it worth putting your case to your GP in case he/she could make a strong case for you? Mine is always very good at fighting my corner. I really hope you feel better soon and the sulphasalazine helps. Take care, Kathleen x
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Merete
That is ridiculous that you have had your Humira withdrawn. My blood counts are no where near yours. I would ask for a second opinion. Surely if you have failed on the DMRAD's then you should be entitled to move onto a anti-tnf. I would speak to your GP as well and explain how ill you feel.
I hope you get something sorted soon.
Jackie xx
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Thank you for your replies and good suggestions.
I have never really involved my GP in my RA. For years and years I had an excellent consultant, who was always at the end of the telephone, if I had any problems. Although I feel very unwell at the moment and desperately tired all the time, which are reflected in my bloodtests, when they do the DAS score, I don`t really feel pain in the joints, they are pressing. Should I maybe have faked it a bit and said`Yes`, when they pressed my knockles on the hands? I have also noticed my platelets have gone up steadly the last few months. From always being around 230 to 250, it is now 360. I know, that it can be up to 400, but rising to a 100 more, seems a lot? I am confused!!!
Tomorrow I start taking 2 sulphazalazines for a week, and then on to 3. Maybe with the 20mg mtx and 8 mg predniselone, it will slowly start to help.
Merete
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